themanwithnoname

Sorry, I completely forgot about this until now. Usual breakfast meet on Sunday at GT Cars. http://gtcarslimited.co.uk/social/

I feel left out now. No one has ever paid me in cow or anything equal tasty. Other than mates rate jobs where I've been paid in beer and pizza. I need more rural work clearly.

Dammit. Our secret is out. That said I've heard they tried using the same currency in the south, but it didn't amount to much as the beer wasn't much to write home about. Up here we call it small change or 's*x in a canoe' ('king close to water) ;)

Haha excellent. I also totally get that I've ruthlessly thread jacked this one. Love that it's Not always about the cars, hate that within a few weeks of joining there is a socio political hot topic that I've been cross enough about to post on. All's fair though on the internet. Plastering you say? I don't suppose you do work up in the grim north do you?

No one has mentioned immigration, cheap labour or anything like that chap? This is entirely a media fuss/religious debate. Only reason I mentioned the pitchforks is because typically your average conversation about Islam on the internet will bring out the misguided politics of those groups, who ignore the main issue and blame immigration and the middle classes. (<---there is the bait) (My plumber/gas guy is Manchester born and bred, my gardener is Derbyshire born and bred, my sparky is Manc as well, everything else I do myself by the way. If someone could do the job better, I'd pay them whatever they were asking)

book 'em up and see, I'll go to your humanist/antitheist night - tell me what the dress code is, if I don't like it, I'll pass. No harm done. I don't work for waterworld, hell I've only ever been twice nearly 2 decades ago. I'm not pointing any fingers or calling anyone anything, just a regular guy getting fed up with all the anti this anti that especially in the sensationalist nazipapers, why should x y z get treated any different. If doris wants ladies night for shy ladies, why not? All I'm saying is would this have made the forum, the news or even raised an eyebrow if say they had reserved a night for clown night, big shoes and red noses only? Its all too often that a very conservative, moderate religion/culture is bad mouthed and cast out because of the title. If you can honestly, hand on heart, say that you'd be angry if the hatepaper had printed Coco and Crusty in Shock Waterworld Night closure - everyone welcome so long as they wear big shoes and a red nose, then fair play. Not even joking. Red noses. Big shoes. Unicycles. Clowns. One night only. Ladies. Muslims. Considerate outerwear. One night only. How about Furries. Animal costumes only. Gender neutral. One night only. Druids. Sickles. Gowns. Stereotypes. One night only. Blackadder night. Comedy fake !Removed! (seriously you can't say mammaries in the common form associated with say feeding, or cancer, wow - you can tell I'm new to this forum). Women called Bob only. One night only. Exactly. The. Same. Which ones **** you off? Edit again: For your genuine question. I genuinely don't know. I've got a working knowledge of the religion. However. I had a google and came up immediately with this link. http://islamqa.info/en/159926 Its an interesting read. so I implore you to read up fully. I use the site a lot to assist in my own enlightenment. In short, No. Strictly speaking even a women only night for muslim women, by muslim women in female only muslim compound, using a communal pool is forbidden. Strictly speaking any muslim woman who attends this event will be burning in Jahannam (hell)

Just to add that if you look at it another way... Sometimes we get to use a car park or field to make some noise and ***** about, right? We get to do this to the exclusion of Doris in her Micra unless she wants to whip out her ICE and get her shirt off to drop, signifying the stay of a drag race... (if we lived in f&f world obvs) We get coverage in newspapers for being boy racers/street racers/joyriders.... With me so far? So you get good and !Removed! off because all toy wanted to do was show up. Have a chat With your mates and enjoy the evening, perhaps enjoy a coffee and glance at a couple of cars parked up as well because you know you wanted to do something perfectly legit.... Now.imagine yourself a member of a minority group who instead of wanting to park and chat without disapproving doris wagging a finger, wants to play on a water slide and a wave pool without fear of your God smiting you....

Not at all. Certainly not my intention and certainly no judgement. On my part just a request to research before rage. I just took what i read on face value and what i read was that there are a bunch of folk in uproar as something something Muslims. There is no positive discrimination here just a one off night, out of good where Muslim women can enjoy waterworld along with other women of other faiths without being haram. But please don't let a bit of open-minded inclusive acceptance get in the way of a good bit of pitchfork action. Just saying....

Hey no problems. Glad to be able to help a little. I just dislike sensationalist media and if i can use what little i do know about religions and cultures to give others more insight into how others live then it's a positive thing. I'll still be enjoying my bacon buttie tomorrow and a pont tomorrow night when Ramadan has started! I'll just understand that the chaps who are looking a bit pasty and slow the next few weeks are fasting and for why etc. (Also the parties are awesome so it really pays to get invited to an Eid do!)

As I understand Kitab Al-Hammam covers its (sic) quite nicely. It specifically refers to hot baths (hammam) but is broadly what would cover a swimming pool.

There's a proper name for it which escapes me at the moment (I want to say forujihim - modesty or awrah - nudity), but in short modesty/nudity is pretty much a no-no outside of the confines of the marital bed and strictly speaking there should be a 'veil of darkness' i.e. its not unIslamic to be naked with your partner, so long as the lights are off, and even then pretty much purely for the act of procreation, not recreational fun times, which leads to impure thoughts - i.e. potentially adds one in there for the !Removed! bank. Anyway, being in a public place, even if it is with only other women in your skivvies is a direct contravention mentioned in a few hadiths. Sorry to be a bit vague, its a bit early.

Seriously? For a one night, out of hours, special event? Come on chaps, you're better than that. Aren't you? I mean, if they removed the requirement for not practically naked and just made it "Womens night" or "Private Party" or Would you be writing this thread? Would you be happier if they had on, the next evening "Men's nights, swimwear strictly optional, and by optional we mean dongs out fellas, oh and the rather than putting up blinds we'll be putting up a live feed to the ad screens in the local area" Nope. Thought not. (White, middle class, antitheist btw) Don't let me stop you getting your UKIP/Britain First pitchforks out though.

Hi, I can't be much help on local services - looking into it myself at the moment, but another Manchester import owner here. Welcome and catch you around soon.

Just a quick pic from this morning. A few members from a local club showed up (Manchester Subaru Owners Club, if there are any members here?) With mine and I_MNL's cars up front.

OK, so as you turn right into the industrial estate/Lyncastle Rd. then take the first Right onto Lyncastle way, and keep going straight and through the gates where the road bends 90 degrees left - listen for the sweet sound of dinosaurs being turned into motion! GT Cars 3G4/Barleycastle Trading Est/Barleycastle La Appleton Warrington WA4 4SN Forgive the errrm, special kid drawing... but here's a Google map with Microsoft's finest photo editing suite annotations, assuming you're headed from the M56/M6 and you know roughly where Appleton Thorn is.