I think what makes it worse for the people they leave behind the helplessness. I've always tried to be there for people I know, I've been at a very low point myself as I'm sure we all have. A friend of mine I've known all my life close family friend right back to my grandmother anyway. But his missus died someone I went to school with of cancer just aged 31. He hit rock bottom I spent a lot of time with him after. Her dad didn't make his life easy by any means either, but long story. But many nights of drinking followed, I got sick of the amount we was drinking. But he would wake up drinking vodka straight from a bottle he was that low. Started talking about doing himself in. Lost his business ended up moving in with his mum story goes on. But many more times of drinking, He actually turned round to me and thanked me. He actually said if it hadn't been for me he would have done himself in leaving his daughter who was 8 at the time, I sort of felt proud but realised I was learning to cope with my own grief to. Strangely I've never spoken about this until now. But I do hope that I say men but appreciate women may feel the same but less than men, start to find it easier to talk about. I Know for many weeks when I was low though not to do with money or anything just a build up of everything, just hated life the loneliness that follows is one hell of a dark place I wouldn't want to return to.