firedawg Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Well folks as previously posted on newbie site - got an 05 sportwagon wrx about amonth ago 110 k with full md history but needing cambelt service. I got a name off here for Tim who used to work for Zen apparently and I supplied the bits - Gates Cambelt, Pulley and Waterpump Kit which I imported from the states for £170 inc bought some plugs oil filter and oil and pipercross air filter and got the whole job done for £480 inc parts which I thought was good. Anyways car sailed through MOT yesterday but then would not start this morning so took it over to a mates garage who tested Battery and said it appeared ok then put his meter on with engine running and it was putting out around 12.35 to 12.4 volts ! He said it should be between 12.50 and 13.00. Anyway when i put the lights on it went up to 14.40 so he reckons it is the rectifier on the alternator but if I run under load ie lights on it should be ok for awhile. Your thought s and cost for a replacement alternator ? Knew the MOT was too good to be true eh ! Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Blobeye does the exact same thing mate I've never really looked into it as it seem to be fine with the sidelights on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 They have an intelligent alternator! Only charges under load. If you run the car with no lights or Stereo with out heating on ιt will only trickle charge the batt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1972 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I ran my forester with the side lights on from when I bought it as has read this somewhere too. As I run the blower on setting 1 all the time, is there no need for my side lights then to kick the alternator in? Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Cheers folks, If it is an intelligent alternator then why has the Battery gone flat ? Is 12.30 volts enough then as I remember now that when I first viewed the car it would not start initially and the guy said that he had left the interior light on but not so sure now. The guy did think it might be a bad earth and it got better when I turned the lights on so he said it might be earthing via the lights but then he tested it and said it was the alternator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 If ιt's only doing short journeys then I would run ιt under load yes! Ιt's not that intelligent that ιt knows when Battery ιs near dead, ιt just does what ιt's supposed to, trickle charge ιs better for the Battery. I guess that's why they made them lιke as they didn't design them to be occasional toys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 It seems to be more of a problem when it is not used for a day or two rather than short journeys which I don't tend to do too many of. So does this alternator differ from usual ones then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I would say if ιt's running flat after a couple of days then Battery!! But you may have a fault that gives load on the system when the cars off! You don't have a sub ɑnd amp at all do ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 No mate - standard Stereo system on it. So are you saying that when no load is on then the alternator should only give out 12.40 volts ? One other question - if I unlock the car and don't fire her up within a few seconds and then turn the key again she will not start until I lock and unlock the doors again which is a right pain ! Is this normal or am I doing something wrong# ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The locking thing ιs normal bud! Give me till tomorow ill do a few readings from mine and let you know the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Cheers mate - will wait results ! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Right! I get 12.58 at the batt with car not running 12.50 car running no load 13.98/14.07 with ac rear screen ɑnd lights on Hope this helps bud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 learnt something new today :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I think ιt's to make Battery life longer! Clever folk them !Removed!!! No point charging the **** out of a Battery if ιt don't need ιt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Cheers for that buddy ! SoI am down a bit on no load at 12.30 to 12.40 but 14.14 with lights on is fine. I will see how I get on leaving the side lights or fan on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I would say that your Battery may be near the end of ιt's life as ιt should hold a charge for a week or so! Alternator seems to be doing what ιt should fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Pete Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I reckon tour Battery is on its last legs. I had similar issue the batt would not start car, charged the batt and it took after about 20mins it would show as fully charged, when back in the car it would work for a cple days then go flat. Replaced Battery and never had an issue since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Cheers folks - reckon the guy yesterday did not know about the fact that it charged what it needed when under load cause he seemed to think that it should be above 12.50. He did put a meter on the Battery to check the cells and they seemed ok but can never be sure i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Well just having the side lights on the Blobeye I've never had an issue in two years. And never had the issue with the Bugeye so not sure if it was something that came along after or I just have that much powering through it :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I never run with lights on unless ιt's dark bud! Thats why I recon your Battery Ιs nearly gone! Alternator should know if ιt needs charging ɑnd charge ιt, which ιt ιs! Just seems the Battery isn't holding charge through periods of inactivity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Had a £90 Battery with a 5 year warranty after it was bought mate :( I thought it was the Battery too. I even took the Battery back and swapped it for another just to make sure. Then had it all tested. Battery was fine as you would guess just wasn't getting full charge when running then would be flat unless I have the side light's on. but doesn't get driven far either the Bugeyes my main baby. I just banged them LED strips around the side of the lights so look's like daytime running lights with aftermarket headlights also with led's on look's pretty cool I think :D It's never bothered me to look into it once I figured out just keeping the side lights on worked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Hairy muff, that's the thing ιt's not driven often! Iam gonna do a bit of reading see just how intelligent the alternators are, my alarm luckily measures Battery voltage and if ιt drops below a certain level ιt starts the car with the lights on to charge the Battery!! Yes Iam cool lol!!! When I got back of hols for 3 weeks my neighbour told me he kept thinking my car was being stolen, started itself twice in 3 weeks lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Just seems strange that the guy thought I needed 12.50 and I was only getting 12.30 to 12.40 which he said was not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny b Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 How's ιt going now bud?? Any more issues?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firedawg Posted April 1, 2014 Author Share Posted April 1, 2014 Not as yet mate, I have been driving with the lights on and as of yet the car seems great ! Mind you I have been doing decent mileage ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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