stants Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Just found me expansion tank empty. Should i be worried ? It was full when i bought it in june now the cars had all it's belts changed at start of month so could they hav not topped it up after service ? There's been no sign of leakage parked up no mayo n oil cap and the temp gauge hasn't ever gone above half way. Just stopped and bought some de ionisd water topped back up. Off to dentist so i'll check what th leves are like when i get back out. Am i being over paranoid ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogma1 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 just keep your eye on leakage that's all you can do. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 yup agree - just monitor for the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 how full should the 'radiator tank' (one with the pressurized cap) be ? seems fine touch wood i'm gonna go check it now it's been sat for a couple hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogma1 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I always had it to the top ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 it varies dependant on how much is pulled back from the over flow reservoir when you stop or if non over flowed during last session it could be lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 update, car sat for a couple hours, under rad cap is full but it's drunk just under an inch from expansion bottle, if filled it up and am going to let it sit all day and walk to work, check it again in the evening that way i can be sure there isn't an external leak, i've just scared myself silly by googling head gasket failure, car doesn't smoke and there didn't appear to be anything in the oil so fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogma1 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 may have air in system and that water has taken it's place just remember to also check it when it's warmed and ran for a bit as the hotter it gets the more chance you will get to find leak if you have one just remember to carry water to top up so you can get it home. I usually check car at work so I know it will cool down so I can refill, this way you don't hav to wait round. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I was just about to say they might have air locked it on the service when filling up. And as said before just keep an eye on it I think you will be fine :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Cheers guys, one last thing beforw i head to bed and have horrible nightmares. Which hoses need to come off for the belt change ? I've been downstairs and run it for 10 mins it got warm and the top hose was hot. A few little bubbles appeard in expansion which makes me think air lock too. I'll check the levels in the morning and if needs be put heaters on and burp the bottom hose see if that fixes the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggs Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I've just posted a how to get air out guide on another thread, if you can't find it let me know and I'll have a look for you When running up to temp don't forget the status only fully opens when the fans have kicked in, this gets water round the whole system and will give you more of an idea of what's what As for how much water, doesn't matter if it's deionized or not bit NEVER put cold water in a hot empty engine If you fill it to the brim it will get rid of any excess it doesn't need, I keep a 2 litre bottle of water in the boot just incase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 The car has lost a little water overnight Spoken to hebden bridge subaru on phone today and the have said check water pump as i've had all the belts changed. And some times this causes the pump to fail. Or leak, How easy is it to get the plastic surrounds off to see everything ? They also said a sniff test won't show much up on subarus. Something about water to water pressure so if the gasket does go more likely to have over flowing expansion bottle.and general badness but not much coolant loss. I'm hoping it's something cheap ish as opposed to engine out job. So i'm gonna hav the car on stands tonight follow the advice he's given me anout expelling any unwanted air and check the water pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggs Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 The plastic belt covers are easier to remove with the aux belts off, I've never done it with them on so can't comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I would say be near impossible to take it off with the belts on still from looking but like Miggs not tried either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 !Removed! ! I'll take under tray off and see if anything drips or i can see leakage from there. Which aux belts is it ? A/c and ps ? I really didn't want to start puling everything apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggs Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Without going looking under the car I can't remember which side it's on, it's not that hard getting the aux belts off though, I have an undertray for mine, it lives in the back garden so makes things easier lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Haha. Yeah i nipped home on me dinner to see what i could see. Bottom hose appears to go into pump just off centre to the right as you look at the car. I reckon once i've removed the undertray i will be able to see if there is any water leakage from the pump housing as it's easier to see from underneath don't think i'll have to remove the belts either : ) The chap says as the rad had to come out check condition of the bottom hose and fit while i'm there I take it gravity will play it's part and the water will leak from the bottom if there is any Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggs Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If you see any wet spots under the car, best way to check if it's coolant is dip finger and taste, antifreeze/coolant has a sweetness to it which makes it easier to distinguish from washer fluid or rain water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Spent an hour uderneath car and generally trying to work things out. Topped up resivior and leveled expansion bottle from cold started car up rad cap off nothing untowards squeezed bottom hose for ages loads of bubbles came out continued to top up. Repressurised system ran for a bit fans kicked in bottom hose got hot no leaks from anywhere underneath. Temp gauge stayed where it always has Bit of white smoke think its condensation so off for a test drive, hopefully it's all good fingers cossed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Hopefully that has sorted it - just a little air in the system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Fingers crossed i want to come out to play on sat :) just had a drive out on a mixture of roads and everthing looks ok i'll just keep an eye on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Woohoo sounds good to me. and agreed keep an eye on it for a few days see how it goes :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggs Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Nice one, sounds like it's sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 After two day monitoring cold level seems to be halfway between min and max on ex tank and hot is on the max line. This sound abiut right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted August 2, 2013 Author Share Posted August 2, 2013 Forgit to add, is an ethelyne glycol antifreeze suitable as i've a load of it in the basement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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