jorgen Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Hi, I have got issue with my gearbox every day when is cold I have issue with my second gear working hard and when I try do reduction from 3 to 2 is very hard but when I drive and car has temp. gearbox start working easier. Last weekend was changed oil gulf 75w90 but didn't help. Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 First time I've got many issues with my forester before I had s-turbo and was very good car without issues. Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Have you tried putting molly slip in ? Should help with the gear changes there is other stuff you can use but I can't remember what it's called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 moly slip was what I would recommend - however correct me if I am wrong - are you saying it works fine when you have it warmed up? If so possibly a lighter gear oil would work but I think the gearbox should be working fine when cold - after all it is just selecting gears, unfortunately this is where I run out of knowledge with respect to the fozzy.... I think you may have a slightly worn selector mechanism - I don't know if any other Fozzy members can shine some further information on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 Yes, when is warm everything is fine but when is cold just second gear working hard. Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Thats is strange that it's just when cold and one gear. I'd still be tempted for the molly slip for about £10 and a small tube, but again might not make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 mollyslip would be cheap to try but unsure how it would help with a syncro issue, can be good at reducing bearing noise. Standard transmision service oil we use for your average Subaru is castrol Syntrax 75/90 (now branded as universal) An oil that has helped in past experience is motul 300 75/90. Another good one being Valvoline synpower 75/90 but I have not used that personally but have heard it to be good. Motul 300 has made a long term difference on a couple of notchy boxes we tried it in, bit of a lottery though as a particularly bad syncro needs replacement but sometimes the right oil can make huge differences & for thousands of miles too. Do also check your clutch is in good health & adjusted correctly but would assume your syncro is worn. this syncro gets a lot of use & as the 2nd gear is big & thus quite heavy the syncro needs good grip to bring it into speed match for smooth engagement. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Some top advice again mate :) I have to ask Mr B what is it you do mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Mechanical engineer on a good day ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thank you. Anybody heard about xado maybe I have to use this one Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Mechanical engineer on a good day ... Oh right thought you might work for yourself as a Subaru Specialist or something :) Thank you. Anybody heard about xado maybe I have to use this one Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300 przy użyciu Tapatalka Nope never heard of it I really would try the molly slip 1st. Just add it straight to the gearbox depends how worn the Syncro has worn to how well it will work, but think it will be your best bet to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 not hear of xado, but I would try the molyslip first as you have already recently changed the oil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Oh right thought you might work for yourself as a Subaru Specialist or something :) Have a garage partnership business which is very Japanese vehicle orientated & due to our location we see a lot of Subarus but I mainly work on contracts for various companies these days. xado is eastern block equivalent of likes of mollyslip products, if they do a gearbox additive & cheap & easily available to you it is worth a go. would hate for you spend out on likes of motul 300 & have no major improvement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ok I was going to say I've been looking for places to build a small catalogue up of the specialist kinda like what I have done for Sheffield Subaru Services, Have one in coventry just waiting on the website to be sorted before I sort that one and going to email a few other companies that members have recommended. Just to help both parties out I.e the company and the members here. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 I thought gulf competition it is good choice but ..... Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Gulf is fine but if new had a crunchy gear change I would of gone for Motul 300 75/90 but even that is only 50% likely of helping the issue. Tested motul 300 on a few car that came in with notchy changes or ones found with notchy changes during service & used the expensive oil but charged at standard castrol oil price, being a 50/50 gamble makes it hard to push at the cost but we wanted test claims of the Motul oil. Not had much luck with additives for syncro issue but likes of mollyslip was very good on noisy landrover gear & transfer boxes. Xado maybe worth a shot if price is reasonable & has properties helping syncros & changes. Certainly worth doing a bit of digging on peoples experience on additive for your symptoms then trying one you feel happy with. What mileage has this one done & does the gearbox sound a little groany if listen to it with drivers door open while idling & dipping clutch a couple times to help distinguish the transmission from other noises . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1972 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Two questions from a novice.....how easy is this to add to the forester gearbox and can it be added to the differential oil too? Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 If it's the same as the impreza gearbox oil and the diff oil is not in the same places if thats what you mean. But it's easy enough on the turbo to fill up the gearbox. But with the non Turbo's all the work is done from under it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Two questions from a novice.....how easy is this to add to the forester gearbox and can it be added to the differential oil too? Ta Quite easy with some planning, the gearbox dipstick/filler tube is found on drivers side of gearbox (look down gap in line with air filter box housing & you will see the bright yellow level dipstick) Use a funnel & suitable diameter tube to comfortably reach & get fluid to filler tube. Drain bolt is 21mm bolt near y section of exhaust (later subarus have a torx T70) manual box - diff & gearbox oil is all in one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1972 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I can't see anything like that...doesn't help that I don't know what I'm looking for, admittedly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Maybe these will help got these from a bit of research so if they are the wrong model etc would someone advise buuuut it will give you an idea of were and what to look for Where it is How you get the fluid in Front Diff dipstick is item 2 Gearbox dipstick is item 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr B Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Obviously your forester 2.0X will not have the alloy intercooler but in that position will be the black plastic air filter box. If you stand buy the drivers side wheel & look through the gaps you should just make out the dipstick as it quite low down & invisible until you choose the right path of view. An inspection light or torch maybe handy & just feeding your hand down will enable you to feel the eyelet on the dipstick to pull it out. Kind of easy once know where it is but still have odd days where you can never locate the tube easily to put it back in lol :-S One grouch I have with Subaru is bad location of that dipstick & poor oil level reading of main engine oil unless do it just right & on very level ground as even the slightest uneven drive can really ***** it up & give useless readings, think US guys had an aftermarket engine oil dipstick due to user complaints ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 That dipstick might be worth looking into... will have a browse tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So does the non Turbo's have the dipstick there as well then ? Is it the same with the non turbo Imprezas ? I do have loads of workshop manuals I could look I guess but lazy :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorgen Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Does it have manual gearbox filter? Wysłane z mojego GT-I9300 przy użyciu Tapatalka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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