Daymo Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Hi All, just before christmas, id just pulled away from a roundabout, got into second gear, then i heard a nice loud ping and lost all power. I got the car put on a flat bed and dropped off round at my grandmas garage, after a bit of closer inspection, i found one the bolts had sheared on one of the idlers, the cambelt had 'wandered' off the idlers a bit but was still intact. however the idlers look worse for wear and it definitely sounds like its thrown it out of time, i've stripped most of the ancilleries off the block, and im going to take the engine out, but before i give it a full inspection, id just like a bit of advice with regards to my options and pricing. Do i strip it down, assess the damage and replace components that have been damaged (assuming nothing has cracked) or am i better off trying to source a replacement recondiitoned engine?? I'll be keeping the car for the forseeable future, i just don't really know much about these cars as i've only had it a few months.. Its an 05 Blob Eye WRX which i've been told is a version 8 engine. any help would be greatly appreciated :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quit Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I should just swap the lump over mate as they are good money at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymo Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I have been thinking this, just need someone to confirm what engine i have in my car, i know its an EJ20, but after finding a freshly rebuilt engine on evilbay, i was told it wouldnt fit in my car due to the heads being different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymo Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Basically, i saw this engine on eBay, looks like he's given it the full works, but he said my heads are different.. Can anybody enlighten me how much different they really are??? http://bit.ly/1kTA2bO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Don't know much about the newage compatability I'm afraid but I use importcarparts for most of the bits on my classic engine build http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts.asp?page=2&cat=96⊂=183&sec=349&var=54&dc=0&gen=&searchKey= I also had a quick cross reference on the inlet gaskets (as the stud pattern and shape of the inlet are normally the difference between versions ) and on the link above they show a different gasket set for 2001 to 2002 (bugeye) 2002 to 2005 (blob eye) they show 1 set for import and 1 set for uk versions. Not very conclusive info I know but ,if you decided to rebuild your engine and need any gaskets/parts they're about the cheapest around (if you find cheaper they'll price match anyways). Also if you speak to luke at icp he knows his scooby spares and would be able to advise you on engine compatability . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymo Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 Don't know much about the newage compatability I'm afraid but I use importcarparts for most of the bits on my classic engine build http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts.asp?page=2&cat=96⊂=183&sec=349&var=54&dc=0&gen=&searchKey= I also had a quick cross reference on the inlet gaskets (as the stud pattern and shape of the inlet are normally the difference between versions ) and on the link above they show a different gasket set for 2001 to 2002 (bugeye) 2002 to 2005 (blob eye) they show 1 set for import and 1 set for uk versions. Not very conclusive info I know but ,if you decided to rebuild your engine and need any gaskets/parts they're about the cheapest around (if you find cheaper they'll price match anyways). Also if you speak to luke at icp he knows his scooby spares and would be able to advise you on engine compatability . Thanks for the info mate, i'll be sure to check it out. I'll get in touch with Luke and see what he says about the compatability. i was assuming it was something to do with the stud configuration when he said the heads werent compatible, however, i've also read something about "AVCS", but i dont know whether that is just the difference between WRX and STI heads.. its looking like its just gonna have to be a full strip down, then a rebuild with some uprated bits..... can see me spending a lot of money ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash007ks Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I shall keep you informed on the price as mine is currently in Subaru services having a full strip due to leaking from Every gasket, a tip if you do it your self do not just use Gasket sealer like the idiot who rebuilt the engine in mine did or expect problems further down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymo Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 I shall keep you informed on the price as mine is currently in Subaru services having a full strip due to leaking from Every gasket, a tip if you do it your self do not just use Gasket sealer like the idiot who rebuilt the engine in mine did or expect problems further down the line. Cheers, i suppose that will give me a breakdown of parts cost, I'll just minus the labour as I'll be doing it myself, I've found a reputable machine shop near me that i can send the block off to get the cylinders re-honed to the new piston rings and the pricing is pretty reasonable. May as well make it like new again if im gonna Shell out the money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Avcs adjusts the cam timing on newage sti's which lessens spool time , but you'd need a different ecu /avcs loom to make them work on your wrx .I'm unsure when the avcs came in but, you might be able to find a newage non avcs sti engine that would fit .or you could source a second hand newage sti bottom end and fit your heads to it . As ash said make sure you use new gaskets and (the correct) three bond liquid gasket between the block halves . there's a link on my project thread on here leading to a site (ken gilbert )that has impreza manuals available for free pdf download. As your need to reverse the head/block bolt torque sequence on dissambly to avoid warpage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymo Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 yeah i presumed it was something like that, im confused though, aren't STI's 2.5 litre's? yeah i'll be sure to buy all the appropriate gaskets and sealing agents , i'll take a look through your project thread now. (while i download the manuals) these cars aren't half complicated compared to my old Primera ha, that was a piece of **** to work on! Thanks for your help so far, its much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 you'll get the hang of it - its the same principle as the primera but all arranged top to bottom instead of side to side - oh and a bit of turbo piping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymo Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Yeah i've downloaded the service manuals and had a quick flick through and it doesn't seem too complicated now i've seen the exploded diagrams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Just take your time and you will be fine. It is vital that all bolts are tightened to the correct torque settings or problems will occur down the line. Use graphogen paste between all moving parts when you build it, dont go mad with sealant and you should be fine. The head compatability issue: The later heads (V5 onwards I think) have a different bolt pattern to the earlier ones for the inlet manifold. Yours will be the later ones. Yes, the 2.5 STI,s have AVCS which you should steer clear of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daymo Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 I've found this engine today on eBay, its from a 2001 bug-eye, will it fit? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-2005-SUBARU-IMPREZA-WRX-ENGINE-EJ20-INCLUDING-FREE-DELIVERY-/141085987368?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item20d9615228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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