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The 2.5l engine should be fine if it's had the recall ecu flash or a remap think it was to do with them running to lean on high boost/rmp and melting pistons could be wrong.

As for De stickering fairly easy just take your time maybe use a heat source. Then wash cut polish wax after, good as new

I read somewhere else that most of the 2.5 issues were on the sti's anyway. Is there anyone on here had problems with a 2.5 wrx?

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the WRX hawk you saw at a dealers 

if i bought the wrx 2.5 what would i need to do ?

rebuild the engine ?

remap ?

Anything else ?

The silver blob eye has everything i want and need, i may drive down on Tuesday and have a look at the baby 

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No sorry mate I was giving you recent examples of engine failures. The hawk was at my specialist Subaru garage in pieces....when I had a chat to the mechanic (he's worked on Subarus for years and worked for Subaru at one point)...he said the 2.5 are rubbish.

If you bought the 2.5 and it has FSH and hasn't been abused (red lining it before warm etc)...then you might not need to do anything [emoji3]

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With buying a Subaru its all about spending your time looking and a bit of travelling to get the right one.

If the silver one is in good nick then it'll drive like a rocket....but it is high mileage for the money...and it's not blue [emoji4]

I had looked at a fair few and travelled hours to look at them...I got to the point of thinking I'd have to do weekends away in Wales etc to get the right one... before I settled on mine... and I compromised on the colour. Should I have waited for a blue one?...perhaps

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gosh if the subaru mechanic thinks the 2.5 are bad then that puts me off a little.

 

Was the hawk you saw the STI version ?

 

so i went to see the silver Imprezza i linked here the other day

 

It was sold yesterday !!!!!!!!!

 

Ahh i took so long to find it too !

 

tell me about it the good ones are in aberdeen scotland and wales !

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Found this on the offical Subaru website :

 

 

 

From the information gathered through Fuji Heavy Industries' Engineering Teams, our Regional Service Managers and warranty information, it has been determined that engine failures have occurred due to one, or a combination of the following points:

  • Engine rev limits being constantly exceeded due to over speeding
  • Vehicles being un-officially modified outside the design brief of the engine (unit is designed for around 300 BHP or 330 BHP in the case of the STI 330S, not more)
  • Track use (racing, time trials, rallying etc)
  • Incorrect maintenance procedures, causing engines to be run with insufficient or contaminated lubricating oils
  • Use of incorrect fuel grade (RON)
  • Unofficial "grey" Imports of undetermined specification, ie. not supplied by Subaru (UK)

As previously stated, our engines are designed to be operated within the design brief. Where owners have decided to unilaterally modify their vehicles, it can be expected that failures will almost certainly occur.

The view taken by our warranty staff has been to investigate thoroughly each case presented, and where evidence is in any way inconclusive, we have always covered those units under the terms of the new vehicle warranty. As customers should rightly expect, the engine will rev freely throughout its complete range, without fault, as long as the points above are observed.

You may be aware of a recent joint venture between Subaru (UK) and Cosworth in the development of the Impreza CS400 producing 400 BHP and 375 ft/lbs of torque. This engine has been entirely re-configured from the bottom up to ensure reliability at these power and torque outputs. The high degree of testing and engineering expertise employed by both Subaru (UK) and Cosworth on this project serves to highlight our belief that simply adding performance componentry without an exhaustive development programme will undoubtedly compromise reliability - as other performance tuners have found to their cost.

To benchmark the project, a standard WRX STI engine unit was run on a Dynamometer for 50 hours non-stop at varying power and speed settings to replicate the most extreme usage and to highlight any areas of concern; needless to say, no problems became evident despite being operated under these intense conditions. Cosworth Technical Director, Bruce Wood, confirmed the WRX STI OE specification unit passed Coworth's test regime.

"We were encouraged that the standard STI engine passed our 50 hour continuous test, which we consider to be rigorous, as this indicated that the starting point for the CS400 programme was suitably robust."

Our views are shared by the international motor service community and to present an independent engineering statement from an internationally recognised motor service organisation, MSI Motor Service International GmbH (www.ms-motor-service.com) which clearly states the following regarding piston failure:

"Material faults are not the reason for ring land fractures, even though they are often the suspected cause. This type of fracture always results from overstressing the material." (Piston Damages - Recognising and Rectifying, section 3.4.4)

Our stance is clear and consistent on these issues; where customers are prepared to modify and/or operate their vehicles outside the design parameters, this will invalidate our warranty agreement because it can be expected that failures will occur through no fault of Fuji Heavy Industries or Subaru (UK) in regard to faulty manufacture or improper design, always remembering that the 08/09 STI is designed to be completely reliable at around 300 BHP (and 330 BHP for the STI 330S) but not at 350, 380 or even 400 BHP - power levels at which some owners claim to be running their vehicles. Where any doubt exists, the warranty available through Subaru (UK) is there to support any engine and vehicle defect reported.

Should any customer/owner require assistance with engine or indeed any vehicle related issue, the initial approach would be to discuss the problem with your selling/servicing dealer who will involve the services of Subaru (UK) if required. Customer satisfaction is at the heart of everything we do and it is absolutely not in Subaru (UK)'s interest, either financially or reputationally, to decline fair and proper warranty claims. We will not do it.

Delivery of excellent customer support is our goal, and our award-winning performance in this area over a period of more than 30 years is no coincidence.

We would like to thank you for choosing Subaru and ensure you of our endeavour to make your ownership experience a good one

 

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Ok so i managed to get a good offer in for the blue scooby i linked its got the standard mods, it has a full service history but the current owner has it he will pass it onto the dealership who will then pass it onto me.

£4.5k for a 2.5 unmolested 2006 hawkeye with leather heated seats, electric skylight sounds good, 86k on the clock may be a bit much for the mileage but its reflected in the age of the car  

Or for the same price i can get a 2.0 wrx with 78 on the clock, i dont think that 10k would make such a difference, but i was thinking of driving it down to the scooby clinic in Worcester and having it looked at soon after purchase.  

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I had no issues with the 2.5l hatch, Subaru assured me that the PPP 330bhp it was running was within the tolerance and lean fuelling that had allegedly contributed to the ringland failure had been addressed with the map taking it from the 296 to 330.

 

I would have no issues with getting another 2.5l hawk or shark

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