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Hi guys.

After making my mind up and taking a large leap from my 190bhp BMW 320d, to the phonominal 330s I'm now worried my engine is about to blow up!

I've read about ringland failures and was pretty sure that I was safe post 59 plate models (late 2009). but after reading further now I own the car... I'm not so sure!

Does anyone have any advice or information to calm me down a bit or should I flog her now!?! 

*car is a 2010 plate 330s with 51k miles*

 

Cheers,

Chris

 

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It's pot luck whether they go or not. mapped, unmapped, moded, unmoded etc etc.

Options are sell it, live with it and worry about it if you need to or pay to have engine sorted now.

They don't all fail though, it's just a higher rate of failure than other cars.

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depends how far you wanna go. Basic drop in piston, head studs and gaskets is about £2000+vat, Fully forged ready for 450bhp is about £3500+vat.

 

Cost once failed depends on damage, which could basically mean a whole new engine and prob double the price.

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depends how far you wanna go. Basic drop in piston, head studs and gaskets is about £2000+vat, Fully forged ready for 450bhp is about £3500+vat.

 

Cost once failed depends on damage, which could basically mean a whole new engine and prob double the price.

Tidgy is clearly a bit out of touch on this for a proper build by a specialist your looking at over 5k to get it done properly ! because you don't want drop ins your car will sound like a machine gun lol and if your doing the rest you need to do bearings other wise it will fail prematurely . Also the oil pic up and then water pump and oil pump all belts and seals

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5 minutes ago, kershaw-330s said:

Tidgy is clearly a bit out of touch on this for a proper build by a specialist your looking at over 5k to get it done properly

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http://scoobyclinic.com/performancetuning.htm

'The process starts starts with the engine out, strip down, asses and report, if 400 BHP is the figure we are after it is a lot cheaper than 450 BHP as we don’t have to strip the bottom end, just heads off, new forged drop in pistons and back together using ARP head studs, and all new gaskets. Cost wise approx £2K + vat to do this.

If 450 BHP is the ask then we have to go further and strip the whole engine adding con rods and new bearings at the same time, add £1500.00 + vat to the £2K.'

It approx figures but costs escalate when there is damage, do it before and its no where near as costly.

 

As far as costs you do realise i have only just had mine rebuilt so well aware of what they are?

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And I really don't know how scooby clinic think they're going to change all 4 Pistons with only taking the heads off :/ as you only have an inspetion eye on half the block the other half need the piston putting in with the rods . Maybe that's why it's was so cheep they obv only change 2 Pistons hahaha

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i have had 2 hatchback,they are only wrx models but 1st one was standard and head gasket went on it so i got rid and said i wouldnt get another,now i have another wrx hatcback lol this is map't to 320bhp and i love it,but as said it is pot luck if you get a bad one,give it regular oil changes and look after it it may never go,then again it may go tommorow,but having said that,the engine could go on any performace car,so i would say if your that worried about it that your thinking of selling it then to me your driving the wrong sort of car,me personnaly i think drive it, enjoy it, if it does go then you build it better.

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Just to add, you can watch a whole bottom end build here. Guess he defies the laws of physics as well considering he puts all 4 pistons in after assembling the block lol

 

 

Miky taking aside, I'm not sure where your info is coming from kershaw but its way off the mark :S

The whole point is by not splitting the block you save time and cost. This can only be done before failure. Once failure occurs then you need to pull it and split the block to see whats going on. Also you arn't having to replace damaged parts.

 

If you think they don;t know what there doing then how have they been able to produce these,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Plus god knows how many road engines, cars etc.

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Also if you sold car then in 12 months bump"t into new owner and he said it had been great no problem you would kick yourself.if it worrys you that much and want to keep car then i would say do what@Tidgy said pay for basic piston n head gasket or put a bit money in a piggy bank for when it goes or if it goes.if my mrs would have let me spend enough to get a 330s then it would be what i would be drivin now.

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Well tbh if you happy spend 3 K on half a job that's entirely upto you . I've never rated clinic and personally never let the touch my car as far as I'm concerned they're just a bit two Bob and winging it, and there are many reasons why I have this opinion! but like I said if you want it done properly it's going to cost about 5k unless you get some monkey to do it. The fact they even consider using drop ins concerns me . And even if you can do all four without splitting the block I still find it very unlikely the car do it in the car also if you thinks it's exceptable to take an engine with 50k on it and just put drop ins in and not even change the belts , head studs , gaskets, bearings Water and oil pump your bonkers . Just wasting your cash tbh because 1year down the line your going to have to spend out get it done properly but the prob exactly what crappy clinic want

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20 minutes ago, kershaw-330s said:

 

 

Well tbh if you happy spend 3 K on half a job that's entirely upto you . I've never rated clinic and personally never let the touch my car as far as I'm concerned they're just a bit two Bob and winging it, and there are many reasons why I have this opinion! but like I said if you want it done properly it's going to cost about 5k unless you get some monkey to do it. The fact they even consider using drop ins concerns me . And even if you can do all four without splitting the block I still find it very unlikely the car do it in the car also if you thinks it's exceptable to take an engine with 50k on it and just put drop ins in and not even change the belts , head studs , gaskets, bearings Water and oil pump your bonkers . Just wasting your cash tbh because 1year down the line your going to have to spend out get it done properly but the prob exactly what crappy clinic want

 

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you havn't even read it have you. Go and read it then come back.

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I've read it word for word , you may think you saving money now but in the long run your not scooby clinic are seeing people off . Wether there if failure or not it's still a wast of time and money in my opinion and your better off getting it done properly . And almost all stis upon inspection all have ringland failure so are clinic going to tell you this if you had your car booked in for the two Bob service , or will they just put drop ins in and not say anything ?? I think the latter also. What about the other apparent problems with head studs and bearings , oil pic up etc it's a 50k engine all these should be refreshed if you want it to last

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Right.. well after buying the car I don't have an extra £5k to spend.. in fact I have minus 4K.. so I guess I'll just have to hope it doesn't blow in the time it takes me to sort some cash out.. 

is it just general ware and tare or is it if your nailing it hard around a track for a long time or something?

 

cheers,

Chris

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Like I've already said I would only ever consider haveing that two Bob treatment if I wanted to sell it on not if I wanted to drive it anywhere . But I must be wrong . Because I'm not agreeing that it's a great idea .. It's very poor practise to say the least and I can't believe they're getting away with it and people have actually payed for it [emoji85] shocking !! Totally shocking

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Well like it says earlyer on you maybe lucky and never experience any problems , it may have already happened and you just don't know it , also buy an air oil separator this will help prevent detonation also get a custom map done by a specialist and don't do any mods without a map , and if your still worried get a compression / leak down test done . And speak to a few specialist like finch, roger Clarke , engine tuner or Andy forest about engine builds or what options there are for you and your budget personally I would stay away from scooby clinic but you can always give them a ring too

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Right.. well after buying the car I don't have an extra £5k to spend.. in fact I have minus 4K.. so I guess I'll just have to hope it doesn't blow in the time it takes me to sort some cash out.. 

is it just general ware and tare or is it if your nailing it hard around a track for a long time or something?

 

cheers,

Chris

Yes they can blow just with normal driving , some people notice oil consumption before it goes so check the oil more than normal and try not to give it wot before 3k and if you have low fuel

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As stated previously, it is a common occurance for the 2.5 to suffer head gasket issues and also ringland failure.

the only real way to future proof is to have the deck converted to closed deck, over size the block .25 and fit forged pistons, uprated head studs and uprated head gaskets. All builds we do are fully stripped down, not partially as suggested.

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