Tlag Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Savage, I hadn't considered that. I'll have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Other than saving a tight bend in the IC pipework, I'm not sure what benefits that would have. Although, it would have saved me a lot of time when I first installed everything. I'm thinking of going one step further. Once the car is run in and has it's full map on, it will be a maffless system. At that point, I won't need the air intake pipe under the manifold for anything. So, my idea is to mount the turbo in the inner wing, low down with a very short direct air feed via a filter so some sort. It would make for odd shape exhaust and IC pipes but the spool up time should be minimal. I just need to weigh up the pros and cons to see if it would be worth it. As I have the 2.5 which should be really torquey, it may not be much of an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I've been thinking along the same lines as you with removing/simplifying the intake route (as im running maffless esl) I've been thinking about using the phase 1 (v1&2) inlet and fitting a snorkel to the turbo inlet , so the intake pipe passes over the inlet manifold . Also considered flipping the fmic core and inlet manifold to try and shorten the fmic pipework as much as possible . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Would there be enough room over the inlet manifold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 http://www.rogerclarkmotorsport.co.uk/shop_detail.asp?productID=921 you need this ! Unfortunately you'd also need to rob a bank. How much extra lag do you get with the fmic set up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Stanton you can get a early inlet converted , they blank off the oe throttle body side , fit the throttle body the other side and do the same with the icv . You do have to relocate the alternator and extend a few wires ect as well , but it can be up n running for under £500 [emoji6] The phase 1 inlet set up has a snorkel on the turbo (hence why early tdo's have to be converted to front entry) so the intake pipe doesn't have to run under the manifold Thats a pic of my brvs v1 sti when he first got it I'll try to find a better pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howesy Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Looking good mate, was wondering if you still had this as not seen no updates on sc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Good news! I heard it running properly for the first time today. :) I had the mapper call in and sort the base map out. The fuelling was all over the place but that got sorted. Now I'm left with an air leak somewhere in the IC pipework. With all the work that's gone in to this, that's a minor issue in my book. Hopefully, depending how my fitness is next week, I can get this sorted and on the road. It sounds awesome and with so much more to come, it's getting to the fun bit. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 awww getting excited now - get your video camera out lets hear that burble :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 Well, the mapper paid a visit and re wrote the map to the ecu. Re calibrated the injectors and turned the key. And from the back; The exhaust note is not too impressive to be honest but I'm only stuck with this system until after the mot ;) So, got a bit more fettling to do yet before mot, but it isn't far away now :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevell Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Sounds strong ,looking good Get those leaves outa there!!!!!!! Lol You can go japshow then ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 sounding nice there - very even :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted August 31, 2014 Author Share Posted August 31, 2014 Next step is mot. Hopefully this week if he can fit me in. Then the running in can begin :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Sounds amazing mate was that from a cold start or been running awhile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 It was probably a couple of minutes after a cold start. Once at normal temp, the revs rise and drop a tad which I think is still an air leak in the intake/IC pipework, but I can't find it . Anyway, the mot is booked for Monday morning so we will see what happens with a few miles on it. :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Nice work [emoji106] Are you running maffless now tlag ? As mine idles like a bit like that , but was told it was because it's only running off the map sensor now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 It still has the MAF at the moment. Once it's run in and the full map done, I will be mafless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 I see , I was running mafless on the old engine so just used the old mafless map , 380's and actuated boost to Run in . Have you tried spraying brake cleaner around each join (1 by 1) and listening for a rise in idle ? And how are you getting on with your back , any better ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted September 5, 2014 Author Share Posted September 5, 2014 I've tried the brake cleaner trick, found a couple of leaks. Tightened those and things improved but not perfect. I've not found any other leaks but my back is limiting me in what I can do. Seeing a neurosurgeon on 2nd October and things are improving slowly so hopefully not out of action for too much longer. Cheers for asking :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 :( nothing worse than back pain. I know when I had it I was getting mad with myself because I was limited to what I could do :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 I agree - I only had a tendon spasm in my back so small by comparison but very frustrating as you just cannot move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Not sure what mine was only in my neck and down past the shoulder blades but was enough to keep me out for 2 days 3rd day felt better had to catch up on some work that night was done in again was off for another 5 days :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tlag Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Well, we failed the mot :( Only on emissions though which was expected. I've done some diagnostic work and discovered a bit of a schoolboy error. I have to confess to something. When I fitted each component, I thoroughly cleaned them all before fitting. I guess when I reassembled the idle control valve, I forgot to fit the 'O' ring in the top. This has LED to a massive air leak which I found this morning. That's sorted now and we are leak free. As I am off on holiday on Thursday, the mapper has very kindly offered to take the car to his and have it up and running properly whilst I'm away. I'm not sure yet if he can get it mot'ed as well but in my book, the offer alone is above and beyond. It does mean that he will be able to talk to ESL direct whilst the laptop is plugged in and get the best possible outcome. It will save him having to do a 60 mile round trip each time I call him too. It will also mean I have something exciting to look forward to when I get back :) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Well I'd normally say an mot fail was bad news but might have been a blessing in disguise. And that is great service from the mapper but id use it as an excuse to drive it [emoji57] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Anymore news on this did you redo the MOT ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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