Maybe mate, didn't seem to move much with a little pry bar, will change them anyway, have not hit any kerbs or anything at all @Seminole81, I've put the front arb on, no difference really, dropped the rear bar down to its lowest rating on the back which seemed to help a bit, it's just got a really odd feeling like its floating go around on the sidewalls when you change direction, have put 40osi in all round, better but still not right, could this really be new tyres break in period ??, oh forgot to say, it's fine in a straight line and grippy in the corner, but it's the sloppy feeling as you make a direction change that's nasty