Just trying to help keep you on the straight and narrow. I know you're a wind up merchant, others may not[emoji15].

We're all just here for the crack.

I'll see if I can knock you off that top spot later. Don't want you to have an easy ride.

Any advice you can give people on getting good laptimes I'm sure would go down well.

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I got mine from currys but there was other places had them on sale for £180 when I bought mine. I'm off today do in gonna attack this lap time later on :)

We need to put Ghost under pressure, might take the edge off him, though I doubt it [emoji6]

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Use a ghost as a guide. Pick one that has a time quite far ahead. Not just a couple hundreth. Don't follow the racing line. Don't trust the braking line. Feather the throttle. Never full/off in a corner. Unbalanced the car. Gear down before the corner. During the corner will slip the wheels.

I'm always on the edge. Best way to live life [emoji23]

I can't have ghost cars on they distract me too much. I end up smashing in to walls or run miles wide on corners watching them :( 

That's my problem, if there's a ghost car on the track, I tend to race it and I tend to over push. Resulting in the same problems Gambit just described.

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I'm no good on an empty track. No competition makes it harder to put in a fast lap time. With a ghost I find it easier to spot my mistakes or they show a better line other than racing line.

Other problem I get with Ghost cars is if you head into the corner at the same time it blocks my view of the track. :( 

Do they not go invisible or transparent? It does take some getting used to. You'll be alright when you get that wheel [emoji6]

They do but not enough invisible would be good. Hope so lot of dollar to just to play a game [emoji1]

Never understood the wheel thing, expensive, and I've always found them difficult to steer compared to a controller.

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I think where it's more realistic you're softer when turning in and more controlled with the throttle/brake. With a pad the turn in isn't very progressive. They're pricey though. Well worth it for the passionate racers but difficult to justify for a casual racer.

I've just done a 1:22.680 there's time to come off it yet but I'll leave that up there for now. It's more fun to let it go back and forth instead of trying to get the best time I can possibly do on my first day of trying. I did that with the controller though so now I'm gonna practice with the wheel to see how far behind I am with it.

Hey, brog, let us know how much of a difference it is with a wheel

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I watched a chap knock 2 seconds off his lap times compared to the pad. As ghost said I think it's the learning process of swapping from pad to wheel people give up on.

It's like on dirt rally I played that with the wheel tried to play it with a pad the other day it's awful I kept crashing off and couldn't control the car at all.

And can everyone with lap times set pm them saves me going back through the pages haha

I've played the forza games for years and think I can set some decent lap times with a controller, I was daft enough to think I would start using the wheel and go faster straight away. It's definetly a learning curve I've just got down to 0.9 seconds off my controller time. There is bits I think I can do better with the wheel but it's harder to put it all together and set a good lap, I make a lot more mistakes with the wheel at the minute. I've been playing with my brake pedal dead zone and that's helped a bit.

I've played the forza games for years and think I can set some decent lap times with a controller, I was daft enough to think I would start using the wheel and go faster straight away. It's definetly a learning curve I've just got down to 0.9 seconds off my controller time. There is bits I think I can do better with the wheel but it's harder to put it all together and set a good lap, I make a lot more mistakes with the wheel at the minute. I've been playing with my brake pedal dead zone and that's helped a bit.

I'm the same brog. Gave up with the wheel in the end

I did have a wheel way back when I had Gran Turismo but I think that unless you've got a good set up its more of a hinderance.

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I play mostly at the pc desk anyway so hopefully be OK for me. Sitting on the sofa with a wheel I couldn't do that.

I had a set of pedals and a gear stick but I didn't have a frane and seat to mount them on. A full race seat set up with peddles I can see how that would work. And anyway you can't "lean" your car around the corner with a steering wheel. Go on, admit it, who here who uses a corner leans as they turn to help the car round [emoji23][emoji23]

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I'd have a set up like this in my man cave if my numbers come in with a curved 4k screen and a Subaru car. 

Well I can see how that would improve your lap times, but that's slightly beyond most people's budgets. Though as you say, if the numbers came up [emoji23]

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Wonder how it would be with a vr headset and wheel set up. Full movement of your head that way