Jonny Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Just bought my 3rd scooby but this ones a wagon turbo. It's not as quick as my other 2 saloons, is there any reason for this? And what's the best way to gain some more grunt? V reg, the boost feels very civil. Really want an sti but can't afford it atm. Glad to be a member! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piggysniffer Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Does it have a boost gauge fitted ? welcome to the club mate 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Hello & welcome Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 Hi guys! No boost gauge at the moment. Go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Piggysniffer said: Does it have a boost gauge fitted ? welcome to the club mate 😎 No boost guage atm. Tell me more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Boost gauge will tell you how civil the boost is. The other two saloons could've been imports, could've been modified. Easy ways to gain grunt are first steps really. Exhaust and intake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Scoobyghost said: Boost gauge will tell you how civil the boost is. The other two saloons could've been imports, could've been modified. Easy ways to gain grunt are first steps really. Exhaust and intake. Thanks for the reply, I'm gonna fit a decat tomorrow to add to the stainless system and it has a piper cross filter fitted, what boost should it be around? I'll get a guage. What's after induction and exhaust? What bhp are the wagons? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Classic is crica 220 and .85bar I think Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, stants said: Classic is crica 220 and .85bar I think Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Great. And say the boost is lower, is it safe enough to adjust the actuator rod and watch the guage until it's around .8? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffLeggy Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 Welcome! Get a gauge fitted first, see how it's going. Then maybe go with the decat followed swiftly by a remap . This will get you started on the right road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 8 hours ago, GeoffLeggy said: Welcome! Get a gauge fitted first, see how it's going. Then maybe go with the decat followed swiftly by a remap . This will get you started on the right road. When you say a remap, do I need to spend out on a mappable ecu? The standard ecus can't be mapped can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 All classics can be mapped. Some need esl boards and others can be mapped using ecutek software. If you are fitting a decat downpipe be careful of overboost. The gauge will be your saviour if you're adamant on fitting a decat. Increasing boost without a map can cause fueling issues. Running rich can cause bore wash and thin your oil. Running lean will cause excess heat in the chambers which could lead to cracking. The boost will be less controllable and possibly spike rather than progressive increase. As a general guide the decat is usually left until the week of a remap for safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 22 minutes ago, Scoobyghost said: All classics can be mapped. Some need esl boards and others can be mapped using ecutek software. If you are fitting a decat downpipe be careful of overboost. The gauge will be your saviour if you're adamant on fitting a decat. Increasing boost without a map can cause fueling issues. Running rich can cause bore wash and thin your oil. Running lean will cause excess heat in the chambers which could lead to cracking. The boost will be less controllable and possibly spike rather than progressive increase. As a general guide the decat is usually left until the week of a remap for safety. Great info, thanks for your help, I'll look for a local tuner I think and go from there. How much is a remap normally? £300? I was only going to fit the decat as I thought it would increase power but after reading your post I'll leave it for now, I don't like really loud scoobys, I'm 31 now and live in a quiet village. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stants Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 You'll be looking at between 500-600 for the daughterboard and map or software licence and map, always painful the 1st time you do it, obviously subsequent tweaks to the map (if needed or desired) would be a lot cheaper Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Decat will increase power but comes with risks before map. It makes the turbo spool quicker too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Great stuff! Just one more thing, it has a slight hunting/hesitation at around quarter throttle when driving, any ideas? Seems fine at full throttle and idle. Cheers guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Any CEL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 42 minutes ago, Scoobyghost said: Any CEL? Sorry, not familiar with cel? engine light? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandals Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Yup, Check Engine Light 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Sandals said: Yup, Check Engine Light Does this have to be done with diagnostic equipment or can it be done by bridging wires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandals Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jonny said: Does this have to be done with diagnostic equipment or can it be done by bridging wires? Bridging wires as far as I'm aware on classics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Got it, connected black wires, lights just flashes continuously, any other ideas? Thanks for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 There's a sticky thread in the tech section for self checking ecu codes on classics 😉 If it's not broke .....upgrade it 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted August 3, 2016 Share Posted August 3, 2016 Manually Reading ECU Codes https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=http%3A%2F%2Fuk%2Esubaruownersclub%2Ecom%2Fforums%2Findex%2Ephp%3F%2Ftopic%2F2366-Manually-Reading-ECU-Codes&share_tid=2366&share_fid=75442&share_type=t Manually Reading ECU Codes If it's not broke .....upgrade it 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted August 3, 2016 Author Share Posted August 3, 2016 Thanks, no codes in memory. Any other ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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