Dogconker

Well I've just preordered this from Game so I'm in now

Never had to top either of ours up between services. And both have done about 45,000. We bought a litre of oil as a spare when we bought the car and haven't used them.

That's fine. I disagree, and in here you're clearly the minority. No one else is suffering the same as you. Everyone else on here likes theirs so I guess these cars just aren't for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And your old discovery 14 years ago probably would have cost twice as much new as an XV does now, you're making unfair comparisons, and you seem to have had a duff one, I would suggest most of your issues are probably warranty issues, you're clearly not a fan of the car which is fine, Subaru are known as being rough and ready, they're robust cars that tend to keep going. As for spec, in its class (which is what you're not doing) it has one of the highest standard specs for the price, one of the longest warranties, it's not refined etc it's rugged and will just keep going. If you want truly refined 4x4 experience then go and spend £70k+ on a Range Rover. I just get annoyed when someone dislikes a car because it's not what they expected and then slate it as a rubbish car because it doesn't do what cars that are in different classes do. You can't compare a crossover to a luxury saloon or for that matter a luxury 4x4. . . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A mere scratch, I think I'd rather have been in the XV than the slightly lowered Dodge Ram Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I only pay about £250 for a service at a main dealer, so not sure where you're going? Also if you bought a car 3 yrs ago it must have been almost new and you paid £20,000 you can't possibly expect it to be worth more than you paid for it, even the diesel version is only £24k new, it'll devalue 20% as you drive it off the forecourt. All new cars lose approximately 50% of their value after 3yrs if you have average mileage. My wife's car is 3 years old and is valued at £13k so hers hasn't reached less than half value, hers has 45k on the clock. I think you're comparing things that just aren't comparable. Of course you can buy a cheap classic car for £1500 and after a period of time sell it for s bit more, you can do that when your talking a couple of thousand, you can't do that with nearly new cars that are readily available on the market, the old Merc has hit the limit of its depreciation after which it becomes a classic and will actually go up a bit. However if you had bought that Merc nearly new (like you have the XV) you'd find that you'd have the same %age depreciation after 3 yrs, if not more, only difference being the Merc would have cost a lot more. I think you're doing some unfair maths. The driving experience isn't poor, it's actually a very good driving experience as long as you understand and accept what the car is, this is a crossover it has stiff suspension to allow this, it's not a Bentley, it's not a Ferrari, I've driven many crossovers and this is by far the most fun to drive and one of the best handling. If you're looking at a modern subaru as an investment, I wouldn't. Your main gripe seems to be that a new car depreciates loads and an old one doesn't and the fact that a rugged crossover 4x4 doesn't drive like a luxury saloon means it's a poor car. I'm sorry but I think you're expecting something that no new car can provide. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You'll have to post up, I personally found the geolanders to be pretty good in snow and ice even stopping. With the mileage in getting out of mine I'm reluctant to put anything else on, so to 46k miles on the original set of tyres. So far actually on my XV I've replaced no parts yet that would usually have worn by now, no pads, discs nothing. Quite a cheap motor to run.

Suits me to be fair, I'm not a big fan of autos, always used a manual, gives me something to do when I'm driving

So do these just plug in or are they a proper wiring and modification job, I don't want to be messing with wiring because it could void my warranty

Sounds like you've got a lemon. I find mine very easy to drive, got plenty of go I it handles well for an SUV, we had a CRV before which was like a boat comparitively, Subaru are more rough and ready then other "luxury" branded cars it's true but that's the charm in my opinion, and I would suggest cheaper to repair and run than a Discovery. The road noise is higher than a luxury car but on a par with a civic Type S I used to have, that's just a side effect of stiff suspension and all season tyres, and is a matter of preference. As for your seat, if Subaru have admitted a fault and its within warranty and they won't repair it then it's off to trading standards, a refusal to repair an accepted fault you'll have no trouble winning. Is this main dealer that have rejected the claim or Subaru UK? I agree that the gearbox is a bit rough and ready but only really in 1st - 2nd or at least in my car that's the case, the higher gears I've found to be quite smooth. You must have a major fault with the hands free, i find the hands free in my vehicle to be fine, I've got a load of numbers stored in it, me and the wife switch phones around with no issues. Might be a other warranty claim to chase. im sorry you haven't liked your XV but it does sound like you've got one riddled with problems. Most of the people on here love theirs so it could be you've been really unlucky and had a duff one. One of the things about the Subarus is durability, unfortunately that comes at a cost and is usually refinement, you can't compare a Mercedes saloon or a discovery to the XV they're just not the same beast and not even in the same price ranges when new and totally different levels of refinement. You might have been better with a good spec legacy or maybe an outback which are the more luxury end of the Subaru range which looks like it would have been more suited to your needs. Subarus are a niche market, people love them or hate them, those that love them keep buying them, those that hate them think those that love them are mad, and we probably are.

In 2013 a bridge collapsed while several vehicles were driving over it, they all fell quite a way into a river. One of those was an XV. So if you ever wondered what you XV might look like after a catastrophic bridge collapse, your wish has been granted. Worth knowing no one was killed or I think seriously injured.

If it makes you feel any better I'm doing 350 miles tomorrow Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I'd forgot that there's an update this week, I used to race the svx a lot in Gran Turismo. Be nice to have it back Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Dug, any chance of a link to where you can get these xenon upgrade kits?

I fm think there's much of a difference to worry about. Bonnet scoop would have been nice. Quite like the rear spoiler though and the white glass rear lights

Whilst other tyres are cheaper, marginally. I'm on geolanders and they've still got 3-4mm left on them and they've done 45,000 miles. So worth considering that you may only get 25000 out of set that's £100 cheaper, in which case that's not economical. i'll be sticking with geolanders. Also our tyre specialist advised that the tyre was designed specifically for the car, They're also very sure footed in snow and ice.

Flat tyres anyone? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Might try and make a Subaru GTA rally vid at some point Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You'll need a millions in GTA to get one though! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

On GTA Online the new Update has brought the Subaru Rally car to the game, the car even has the proper Subaru roar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

There a guy a friend of mine knows who's got a body shop, he's into a major Ground Up Subaru restoration by the looks of it, thought others might be interested. https://m.facebook.com/SJB-Car-Body-Specialist-113555582032332/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The biker went to the front of the "straight on" line of traffic, the Evo was in the right turn lane. So my money is in the Evo driver being in the wrong, the biker hasn't cut anyone up and was in the right lane, whether you think he should have ridden up to the front is a matter of opinion. Not exactly sure how the Evo driver lost it on what was almost a straight, unless he cacked his pants and braked. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I got a load of Subaru designs you might like when you're online. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you're on Xbox One there's an active mature crew you can join that like their cars and bikes. It's a mix of Europe and US members. But pretty much always someone on. "Outlaw Knights CC" tell them you know me "Dogconker" They use discord to message each other and plan meets etc. It's a pretty informal crew. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yeah I had mine drifting in the snow but it eventually decided I was being a nob and re-engaged the VDC to stop me dong something I shouldn't. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk