Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I can't race with gambits tune. Not to say it's good/bad I've just spent so long tuning my own cars I have a strict preference. Anything else is just a toy [emoji1] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 As I said last night I'm not fussed what tunes we use we use really I thought mine worked and like it that you have to take the corner right as it's unforgiving if you just try to launch them round. Sceptical as to using both tunes at the minute not sure if it will work or not. I'm not sure which tune dog was testing with the hatch but I could drive it spot on and I know most the cars I did was all within a few 100th's of a second of each other every lap I did with each car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'll get my eye on the forum. When the rules are set I'll grab all the tunes. I'm just picky with my tunes. Been doing it so long it's harder to get on with anything else. I'll have to get used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Can use your's I don't mind I was hoping by now everyone would have given them all a good test to check how close to each car was on a lap. And choose from there. but will see still a week now before start. Only other thing I could do which would make the cars stable is just add the tyres regardless of a Class cap. Wouldn't be any good for playing multiplayer as it would be too low in the next class up but would be good for the league event only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'm not sure what tunes everyone was using last night. I'd rather use yours and fine tune it for my own driving style. Same mods just different stiffness. That way we all have the same strength car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Standard cars with race tyres and we all use the same car on a given race. Can't get fairer than that, no one will have a preference over handling as you'll get what you get. Maybe just add some extra horses but nothing you can tune. Then you get what you get and everyone gets the same. People setting cars up will set them up how the like them but that disadvantages the others. Just a thought Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think we're complicating things myself. I don't like the clutch because the majority don't use it so does come a bit like no point trying to win and just hope they crash to pick up the scraps. I'm fine with the tunes as long as we're all happy not fust if its mine or ghosts. As long as there close on time's for each car. I also like the variety of car's being raced certainly makes the replays look good as you will see when it's been uploaded. Assists I can race with or without. I just think if people choose to hinder themselves with them it's upto them. I don't see any advantage from assists. But with only one week not even that we need to all kick ourselves up the !Removed! and choose whats the best route even if we have to go against what we like or what we want. The problem is I can't finalise the event for the other's until its been decided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Bin class tunes, standard cars with race tyres perhaps just a tweak on power so they're comparable. Extra little power on the weaker cars would make them more competitive. I'd really like to be able to use abs but not too worried about the other assists. I think it's up to people to as you say hinder themselves. Clutch use though does give a clear advantage over the majority that don't use it.. Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I think you're right dog. This whole tune fiasco is making it more difficult to set up. If there's no upgrades then there is no tuning. That way there's no right or wrong car. No personal preference or advantages. If we need to tweak one car because it's pi is lower then let the individual tune it up to c class. Means there is less possiblity for major advantages with tunes. Gambit you're right. We have until Sunday before the rules need to be set and finalised. We had a practice but that didn't clear anything up. If nothing can be decided about tunes I'd agree with dog again and say bin them off. If a cars pi is 400/500/600 then they will be competitive despite who they're tuned by. My tunes carry less power and more grip gambits tunes have more power less grip. In my eyes that's equal and fair. I don't mind being taken on a straight because I can make it back up on a corner. Spewed a lot of words not sure if any of it makes much sense to be honest. Final thoughts basically Gambit, you organised it so your word is final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I agree but I don't think PI is that important, as long as each car turns out more or less equal lap times. Eg the 22b might only have race tyres, whereas the BRZ may have an extra 200HP and race tyres, as long as they're the same there's nothing anyone can or needs to tune. Some cars will handle better, others faster. Job done. But I agree with ghost it's your party really so your call in the end Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaulson Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 For the Subaru races, all the same Subaru with race tyres and nothing else done to it. No mixture, like your previous season everyone looked like they were in the same car. As for assists... bin clutch due to the advantage gain, rest I'm sure don't make a massive difference but most people race with everything off now anyway. That's my view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Gambit wants different scoobs on the track, which is why we will possibly need some slight tuning. I'm quiet later in the week if people want me to test out some cars that don't have any tuning options except tyre pressures which I can't imagine will amount to a massive difference. I'll test in the nurburgring gp to get a better idea of how far apart they are as I can lap consistently on that track. This is how I tested the cars last year and we were pretty good Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Ok later I'll put some tunes up that are just tyres and possibly power tunes to the lower rates cars if needed. No suspension ogle brakes. Anything that allows tinkering will be off limits. Not even a lsd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Sounds good, I'll have s blast round tomorrow evening, you'll have to clear your other tunes off so people don't get the wrong one unless you can name them? Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I'll just unshare the others and name all the tunes for each scoob "SOC" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 That's a plan Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 When it comes to tuning the power I'll keep an eye on 0-60/0-100 times and top speed. If they all match close together I think that's a good base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Seems fair, but got to watch that the lesser handling cars may need a little extra oomph to compensate for the lack of cornering. Which is why they need track testing I guess Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Yeah that's where it gets tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Nurburgring GP is a decent track as I can lap consistently within a couple of 10ths. 5 standing start laps on each car, ignore fastest and slowest lap. Average of the remaining 3 and you'll have a pretty good idea, this is what I did last year and we had some great racing in really close cars, but they all drive slightly different. Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Ok I'll do a quick test and try to get the cars right. I'll have rsebirn test them and if you can get back to me we can adjust them. Most of these will be in c class now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogconker Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Ok, it'll be tomorrow before I get on but I'll run some tests, if we all do the same type of test on our most consistent track, ie you might favour Spa, I'm on Nurburgring GP, Rsebirn might like silverstone. If we all do the five laps thing you'll have enough data to see who needs a little more power to lift the competitiveness Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 !Removed! up the editing near the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusedbrog Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Anyone ever tried making a power limit and a minimum weight instead of going off the PI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Rather than doing pi this time I matched power close and got the top speeds 0-60 and 0-100 times within a certain parameter. Weights are different though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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