I take it you're not a fan of windows 8 I like it better than the crap windows vista 7 was a good I liked it but my PC died and along went my windows 7 with it. I don't built my own PC so much now as it's easier to just buy one with a built in operating system not a fan of apple products but I think I'll need to get one with my new course if I pass. But back to Windows 8 I think it was the learning curve of it that got to people. I can use mine now like any other and navigate around it easy enough, the start menu is kind of still there if you right click the windows icon that replaced the start menu. But as I said before I have to have My Computer shortcut on the desktop for ease.