Youngy Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 As above what is the max power you can put through standard internals of a 99 uk 2000 because and done my first track session today and although I loved every second the car was not powerful enough so what sort of power would this lot add up to full decat straight through system td05 or vf23 (let me know why a is better) pink injectors fmic better fuel pump remap thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quit Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 350 max your box will give out first td05 are old turbos now , good if you get a rebuilt one vf23 good turbo ! Vf28 is hardcore for track use , the existing td04 gives loads of spool when mapped and can take punishment but with tracks your brakes need to be **** hot and take a lot of punishment suspension .... Need to be tight like a tiger , nothing worse than loosing power in the bends from body roll or trying get back to a nice line then weight and what drains your engine , ditch the ac for one ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Thanks for all that I must say going through some of the bends the !Removed! was a bit wobbly but if I was going to replace the gearbox what could I replace it with coz 1st is a little whiny already I was thinking already to get rid of the ac but I will look out for a vf28 then but I'm having a little trouble with the mapping (that's if it's been done)and boost ATM coz I pipe was leaking from the actuator and it was boosting at 23-24 psi but I thought they cut out at about 16psi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 6 speed conversion. 6 speeds from sti models are much stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayzarh Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 there is also the ppg gearset which ive read good things about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I think the main weakness is the casing. 350ftlb starts to force the gears out of line and either rips teeth or blows the casing. You can also buy strengthening plates for the sides but they are expensive for what they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 So a 6 speed box will bolt straight in with no problems then but what do you guys think on the boosting thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's not quite a bolt on. You need all the running gear, diffs, shafts and hubs to name a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Ok I think I will just take the power to about 335-340 for know then and then just buy them bits when I can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Rough cost for a 6 speed set up is 1500 if you do the work yourself. With a my99 car you should have a ty754 gearbox which are stronger than the older ty752 boxes anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quit Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 some decent mounts will help keep it in good order! 2 pot rear conversion helps too with braking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 There's definitely a big difference in size from a ty52 5 speed to a 6 speed Think you can work out which is which lol. Classic UK'S and wrx's don't come with forged pistons and have less agressive cams than the classic sti's. generally most mappers will only map them to 320/330 ,so a 6 speed is probably a bit overkill imo at that level of tune but I did strip 3rd gear in my v3 uk 5 speed at about 330hp. If you intend on doing a lot of track days look into a sump baffle as scoobs can suffer from oil starvation or oil surge when pushed hard for long periods of time in the twisties. If it's not broke .....upgrade it 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 Thanks for all that info but at that cost I will keep my gearbox for know but Iv decided I want the power around the 330 mark but the brakes are definitely one of the first thins I'm upgrading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 are these the gearbox mounts you are on about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quit Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 no you can get braces, but if you look at the vibratechnics systems think they stock gearbox mounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Gearbox wise alot depends on how you drive it, i killed a 5 speed on the isle of man at 280bhp (cant remember what the torque was at the time) and track work will not be easy on it. PPG, Albins or similar will do the job or a 6 speed as mentioned. Word of warning with the 6 speed is it adds alot of weight, 50-60kg iirc As well as the above mentioned items worth looking at oil cooling as well, after market kit (mocal or similar), make sure its thermostatically controlled though. Also i'd look at sacking off the standard ecu and chucking a syvecs on it. Not cheap, but much more capable ecu, plus when you come to sell it on will hold alot of its value. Will need to sack the MAF as well (syvecs will do that anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Just a note - if you do run MAF less the car can run rich lower down in the rev range as there is no flow input for the ECU - fine for the track but everyday driving your MPG will suffer. Echo what has been said earlier in the post look at power to weight ratio's, chassis and brake mods - It cost nothing to unbolt things and remove them from your car back seat etc Syvecs is an excellent ECU, there are other alternatives eg ESL which cost less but the 99/00 option hasn't been released yet so dependant on the year of your car is that may not be an option. Another thread was discussing power loss through the transmission from the engine to the tarmac - this highlights the impact of lower quality oils, worn gears, bearings and linkages can have. So ensure you have a good platform for tuning before you look at increasing power as the mods you make may just get it back to what it was as standard from new . What ever you decide though keep us posted and if you want some food for thought check out either Savages or Matts threads in the project sections both have increases in power and control but with different approaches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quit Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 if its a 99/00 i would recommend Eculabs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 5 hours ago, Jay762 said: Just a note - if you do run MAF less the car can run rich lower down in the rev range as there is no flow input for the ECU - fine for the track but everyday driving your MPG will suffer. Who told you that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 iv just been looking into the eculab remap and it looks good so when I have put the new turbo and other bits on I will go get it done but thanks everyone for the info coz I really haven't got a clue about these cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 If your car has already been mapped you may already have an ecutek licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 17 hours ago, Tidgy said: Who told you that? We covered it on the ESL mapping course 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage bulldogs Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Who told you that? We covered it on the ESL mapping course I think thats probably why all marques of turbo cars have a maf when they leave the factory and I'm sure they wouldn't have them fitted if it wasn't needed, as it would save them a fortune [emoji6] If it's not broke .....upgrade it 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 What's the pro Vs con of running mafless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngy Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 If it has been mapped already how do I find out is there anything inside the ecu I can check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.