The original ms wheel was brilliant but they discontinued it just before f4 came out they & were like rocking horse !Removed! 2nd hand, I used the speed wheel but the hardest thing was catching oversteer if you wern't on the ball you'd end up winding too much lock on, I really want one of the fanatec wheel set ups but your into the thick end of a grand if you go the whole hog so that's a no then,