Seminole81 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Hello everyone, My names Steve and I live in Newcastle in England. New to Subaru's and turbos cars in general. I'm looking at buying a used hawk eye STi, but I'm not totally sure on the prices I should be looking at. I've went and saw a clean import (from Singapore (can't drive fast there) but it's not JDM as it's a EJ25. Leads me think it's a Type UK as it also had EU/UK chassis number?), and the dealer is asking for £9k (has a few small mods, exhaust DEFI gauges) Is that reasonable for a dealer for one of these? I don't think it's had the timing belt, tensioner and water pump done either, which I was quoted at £650 from Subaru garage. The car has 81k miles on it and had two owners from new, and the second owner was a garage in Singapore. I've also seen a 04 plate fairly local from another garage for £10k, reflective on the 42k miles it has on it. Just wondering which is the better option as each have pros and cons (tax aka engine size being one). Also is there anything to check for when purchasing other than do a compression check for bad ring lands? Thanks for the help! - Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandals Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Welcome to the club Steve! Personally, I would go for the 04 Blob. 2 litre engines have less problems with headgaskets and ringland failure. I would still make sure that the cambelt has been done as they do deteriorate with age. Take a good look underneath at the sub frame for rust as you know what British roads are like! Make sure it has FSH and if you go take a look, listen to how it sounds from a cold start up... the boxer engines can be a bit noisy but listen out for any tappity sounds and ensure if there are any, make sure it goes away when the engine is warmed up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffLeggy Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Welcome! Im with Sandals. And if its tappity at mid rev range walk away full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1972 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Welcome - always good to see members join from the NE! Do keep us updated on progress and ultimately with pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Wotcha and welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Sandals said: Welcome to the club Steve! Personally, I would go for the 04 Blob. 2 litre engines have less problems with headgaskets and ringland failure. I would still make sure that the cambelt has been done as they do deteriorate with age. Take a good look underneath at the sub frame for rust as you know what British roads are like! Make sure it has FSH and if you go take a look, listen to how it sounds from a cold start up... the boxer engines can be a bit noisy but listen out for any tappity sounds and ensure if there are any, make sure it goes away when the engine is warmed up. Yeah, I've read into them loads and the more I keep reading, the more the 2L seems the way to go. The tax is just ludicrous as well at £500 on the 2.5L. Shame really because I really like that 06 face lift! Do the 03/04'S have the DCCD? I've just spotted a white 03 JDM one and I've fallen in love 😍 love he white and gold combo! Only thing...it's in London... Anyone got more details on the JDM ones? I know forged internals from factory, the twin scroll turbo, they rev higher, smaller things such as electric, but not heated mirrors? Are they with the premium price tag? 2 hours ago, david1972 said: Welcome - always good to see members join from the NE! Do keep us updated on progress and ultimately with pictures Cheers! Naturally, I will do! Just the small matter of convincing the wife to pull the final trigger! Where are you from? Seen a few people with WRX's about since I've started looking. 1 hour ago, Jay762 said: Wotcha and welcome. Thank you 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 05 blob eyes have DCCD, they're known as widetracks. Twinscroll turbos don't have the burble either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 5 hours ago, Scoobyghost said: 05 blob eyes have DCCD, they're known as wisecracks. Twinscroll turbos don't have the burble either. This white JDM one I just found says it's a 04 with DCCD. Didn't realise the JDM versions didn't have the burble. Not a killer for me. Prefer the stronger internals and quicker steering rack...and the white and gold combo 🙊 EDIT: Think it might be sold, but I've talked myself out of the 2.5L now and am going to start searching for JDM models... Actually, just out of curiosity, are all generations created equal for the most part? So 2nd generation 2000-2007 models (think I read that 06+ is a slight exception?) are the same chassis, just different facelifts etc.? Kind of like Honda? A EK Civic is anything from 96-00? So would say a 2005 wide track UK suspension fit on a 2004 JDM model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeoffLeggy Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 hours ago, Scoobyghost said: 05 blob eyes have DCCD, they're known as wisecracks. Love an auto correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 05 blob eyes have DCCD, they're known as wisecracks. Love an auto correct Ha ha thanks for pointing that out [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 6 hours ago, GeoffLeggy said: Love an auto correct Haha I didn't even twig on that...late night though I suppose. Looked into those white ones, I don't trust them as they're from places that have terrible reviews. Spoke with a proper importer and he said to import one for £9k cost there, I'd be looking at £14k at least. Needless to say, I've went back to looking at the facelift 2.5L Type UK imported from Singapore again as I plan on keeping it fairly stock for a while. I just love the looks of the facelift! Whilst I like the idea of the JDM one, I love the look of the facelift and I don't think a white one is in my budget. Plus this one seems to be really reasonably priced. The guy seemed alright with whatever I wanted to do/look at and check out as well. Said they import cars all the time and he wouldn't of bought it if it wasn't up to scratch as he wants to keep his reputation (obviously). Said he's never had an engine failure yet, and he isn't wanting this to be his first. Said his mechanics have gone through it with a fine tooth comb and they've even reundersealed the car. It was extremely clean looking, even the rubber on the door jams were shiny still. Looks as though it had been kept to a high standard before. So any tips then for my second viewing other than watch them do a compression test (which he was absolutely fine with.) It's a widetrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tidgy Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 As said problem with the 2.5 is head gasket and ring lands. You can check at the time there ok, but nothing stopping them from failing 10 miles later. Personally if i was going for a hawk sti i would budget to drop in a set of decent pistons and rods, headgasket and head bolts. Takes away all the issues they have, but doesnt come cheap (prob 3k-4 Assuming all other parts are ok.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 49 minutes ago, Tidgy said: As said problem with the 2.5 is head gasket and ring lands. You can check at the time there ok, but nothing stopping them from failing 10 miles later. Personally if i was going for a hawk sti i would budget to drop in a set of decent pistons and rods, headgasket and head bolts. Takes away all the issues they have, but doesnt come cheap (prob 3k-4 Assuming all other parts are ok.) Are they really that unreliable? If it was modden loads then that makes more sense? But even running stock maps and everything? Do the headgaskets go even if they've been replaced? What's this problem down to mostly, if anyone knows? What about problems with the 2Ls? Don't the bottom ends tend to go on them a bit more? He's got it up for £9k, said on the phone he thought it was well priced, which I'd probably agree, although I think I'd like to get it for £8k...the blob just south of me if up for £10k with 42k miles...AHHH decisions! Head says blob, heart says hawk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay762 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 get the blob and put the hawk front end on it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 36 minutes ago, Jay762 said: get the blob and put the hawk front end on it? Haha there's an idea. It's 2k more...may as well just fork out another 1k and do the hawk eye 🤔😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hmm what youse make of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandals Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Possibly accident repaired but not written off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1972 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 It's telling me 'walk away' Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandals Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, david1972 said: It's telling me 'walk away' Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Aye me too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Sandals said: Aye me too... Me three...glad I found that tidbit...is there a way to check vehicle history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobyghost Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 HPI checks will show stolen and accident history. They usually cost around £5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Scoobyghost said: HPI checks will show stolen and accident history. They usually cost around £5 Spoke with a guy at the Subaru garage to price the timing belt kit and water pump (£650 and that included VAT) as I wasn't sure if the hawk eye I was looking at had been done. He was really helpful and said he ran one, and nothing came back in it probably because it was an import. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 Well, I've got my money sorted (once it hits the bank)...now just to make sure. Getting excited though, already started looking at little mods (splitter, rear diffuser, pods for gauges to move them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david1972 Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Are you going for that one with the questionable mot history? [emoji54] Sent from my iphone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seminole81 Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 2 hours ago, david1972 said: Are you going for that one with the questionable mot history? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm going to view it again and just ask if there was anything wrong with it when they imported it and see what he says. If he says no then I'll know he's lying and walk away and go look at the blobeye I've seen that's local. There doesn't look like there's been any damage done to it from the photos. And I don't remember seeing anything unusual when I first looked (although I didn't look that closely for that originally). There's a decent spec'd Spec D hawkeye up for £9,995 at a place called Tony Gilbert, but it's a bit of a drive. Looks like it's already had the rebuild work done as well...just a bit dubious of buying a car someone else has modified previously...plus it's grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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