Yeah well up on the cars gotta be insured thang, used to be able to get away with it as the police had no power to ask for owners insurance when you got stopped, huge loophole, all computerised now so that's been closed, I was happy with that as my standard car insurance had worked out st £480 this year coming as I paid by direct debit, chucked the whole £570 on the card, just gotta finish gettin all the bits now lol